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Old 05-07-2016, 08:41 AM   #1
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How and Why Too Much Protein Triggers Aging and Cancer

This is the title of Dr. Mercola's article today. It features Dr. Rosedale and it's a very interesting read. Especially for those trying to figure out how much protein to eat.
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Old 05-07-2016, 03:38 PM   #2
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Thank you. I noticed this myself, and been working on it.
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Old 05-10-2016, 07:09 PM   #3
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Interesting stuff, thanks for the tip.

Unfortunately for me, I also have a need to restrict nuts and some other things to minimize kidney stones. If I did both that and took Dr Mercola's advice, there's just about nothing left I can eat much of!
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Old 05-11-2016, 07:45 AM   #4
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And yet there are studies that show 'seniors' (like me) need MORE protein, so it's difficult to know who to believe about all this.
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And yet there are studies that show 'seniors' (like me) need MORE protein, so it's difficult to know who to believe about all this.
Even if seniors need more protein (it's not difinitive) they don't need huge amounts more. The article is not about eating a "little" too much protein.
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Enjoyed this article and thanks for the tip. I do think Dr. Rosedale is on to something pretty big in terms of promoting longevity. I really like the thought about thinking of different nutrients as clean or dirty fuels.

In terms of considering different studies and their different conclusions, it may be useful to also consider what context they were done in. Most importantly, were they done in a keto framework? As we might guess that if a carb rich diet were used, the results don't really apply. So again, confounding factors must be considered.
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I didn't read it, but all I have to say is: almost all I eat is protein and the good die young.
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I think what's more important is figuring out the macros that work for each of us. I've experimented with my numbers several times and kind of settled into less than 20 grams net carbs, 75-95 grams of protein, and 100+ grams of fat a day. Fat and protein vary quite a bit. BUT - it depends on each person and what your body works best with
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And yet there are studies that show 'seniors' (like me) need MORE protein, so it's difficult to know who to believe about all this.
Yes - I agree. I have read Dr. Rosedales book, and viewed his you-tube videos a dozens times, but nowhere does he address your question.

As we get older our ability to utilize Protein decreases so we need to take more. Maybe he'll address it in his new book once it is released....?
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Yes - I agree. I have read Dr. Rosedales book, and viewed his you-tube videos a dozens times, but nowhere does he address your question.

As we get older our ability to utilize Protein decreases so we need to take more. Maybe he'll address it in his new book once it is released....?
All of these studies are framed in glucose burning metabolisms. If you are keto, these studies do not apply.
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And yet there are studies that show 'seniors' (like me) need MORE protein, so it's difficult to know who to believe about all this.
I feel like I can always trust Dr. Ron Rosedale. He has some good videos (speeches) up on Youtube.
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