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Old 08-25-2009, 05:07 PM   #211
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Week 3 of induction

Ok so I was looking through the threads and found something excellent to read while on induction and your past the 2nd week and your wondering why you haven't lost any weight as much as the first two weeks!
It's very realistic and puts things in perspective .

Common patterns of weight loss:From tracking a *lot* of people who
become assimilated into the lowcarb lifestyle (hehe...resistance is
futile!) a pattern emerges....

the 2 week induction is pretty heady...weight lost just about every
single day, enormous and unbelievable amounts of weight loss are reported.
This is often followed by complaints that weight loss "stalls" or that
the rate drops to only 1 pound per week. (if that).

Many people just don't know that fat-loss ...the actual goal when on a
weight-reduction" diet, is rate-limited. In other words, the human
body has factors that prevent more than a certain amount of fatty-acid
release from storage...and even more factors that prevent those released
fatty acids from being used up instead of stored back into the fat
cells.

A priority of the human body is survival. Anything that threatens its
survival results in the cascade of events to maintain the previous
status quo. Water fluctuations are one way the body does this.
OK...so you done good on Atkins' during induction...lost 10 pounds the
first 2 weeks.

Maybe 7 the first week and 3 the second. But, whoa!
Weeks 3 and 4 there is NO loss! And weeks 5 and 6 is only 1/2 pound
each! So... what gives?

Initially, the body jettisons the water attached to the glycogen stores
that we diligently deplete to get into ketosis...this accounts for
about 3-5 pounds of water.

In addition, muscle stores of glycogen are not
being replaced when used...which will account for the rest. All in
all...MAYBE 1/2 pound of fat was metabolized during the first week... and
MAYBE 1/2 pound of fat was metabolized the 2nd week. Of that 10
initial pounds, only 1 pound was fat and 9 pounds water...

The body senses this lack and sirens start shrieking:
Warning! Warning! Losing water... new thing...got to get back to the
status quo! Brain tells body to produce and release that vasopressin
antidiuretic hormone....more water is retained, and no weight loss
noticed.

Fat loss is still occuring, MAYBE even 2 pounds per week, because
ketosis is firmly established and appetite supression is in
effect...but water retention is hiding that continuing fat loss.

The body is
preventing dehydration with this mechanism, and that's a *good* thing.
From the perspective of the scale, it can be discouraging.
Which is why the mantra: Water retention masks fat loss (repeated
frequently to oneself ) is helpful.

Water retention will mask ongoing fat-loss for as long as the body
retains the water. We can combat this by drinking more water...but we
aren't going to totally overcome this mechanism during the initial
water-loss phase of the Atkins diet.

By weeks 5 and 6, things start to get back in balance, and the scale
will begin to reflect the true fat-loss...which, as mentioned before is
rate-limited.

Individuals vary, but max weight loss runs about 2 pounds per
week...under extremely optimal conditions... or 1% of body weight.(whichever is
the lower number)

Take-home message: Even when the scale is in a stall, fat loss can be
occuring. Don't use the scale as an excuse to undermine your progress
Hope this can shed some light for you as well!"
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Old 09-05-2009, 09:03 AM   #212
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Old 10-07-2009, 11:46 AM   #213
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I did so well during induction, but tried to go above 20. My weight loss stopped at that point. Does any body else find that they need to stick with 20 carbs a day to lose?
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Old 10-07-2009, 03:05 PM   #214
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I did so well during induction, but tried to go above 20. My weight loss stopped at that point. Does any body else find that they need to stick with 20 carbs a day to lose?
What is your degree of metabolic resistance based on your 2-week Induction weight loss?
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Old 10-20-2009, 07:11 AM   #215
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Why am I not losing during induction?

I have been in the Induction Phase for 7 days now. I used the Keto strips and they say that I am in Ketosis but I have only lost .4 pounds. I have limited by carb intake to 12-15 carbs a day. I also limit my calorie intake to under 1700 calories per day. Is this normal? HELP

I don't want to give up but I just don't understand how limiting calories and limiting carbs can lead to such little weight loss.
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Old 10-21-2009, 08:24 AM   #216
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I am in the middle of week 3 of induction - already lost 14 pounds. My diet is not really a strict Atkins - it is Atkins taken to the extreme as the amount of carbs I consume a day is nearing 0 (I am taking multivitamins to compensate). Also, I am pretty much starving myself to expedite the weight loss. Last time I did this was 5 years ago - I lost 25 kilograms in 2.5 month - I know this is not very healthy but I am not patient enough to accept a pound or two of weight loss a week.

My goal is to get to about 190 pounds quickly (I am 6'1") and change my diet to be of Atkins maintenance. Good luck to all.
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Old 10-30-2009, 09:37 AM   #217
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congratulations to everyone who's losing on the Atkins diet!

I feel somewhat discouraged on this diet.. I posted on Yahoo! Answers & quickly learned that wasn't the right thing to do - everyone who replied was pretty much saying to stop the Atkins plan immediately because it's "so bad for you." But this is the first real diet/lifestyle change I have tried to lose weight & I desperately need to lose weight!

This is only my 4th day on Atkins & I have been feeling nauseas during the day for 2 or 3 days now, but I can't figure out why... someone on Yahoo said it was because of imbalance in diet; my mom suggested lactose intolerance (I've been eating eggs & cheese quite often) but I've never experienced any intolerance to lactose before...

I'm not giving up yet. I was just wondering if anyone else had experienced this type of nausea in their induction, or if anyone has tips for me?

Thank you
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Old 10-30-2009, 06:04 PM   #218
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it is part of what is called induction flu by many your body is responding to your low blood sugar levels as it tries to build rapidly the new "fueling" stations you are going to be using in your cells. Also the new higher protein diet can act as a diuretic and if you make poor veggie choices you can become depleted in water soluble vits and minerals like potassium which can cause a temperary blood pressure drop making you feel nausea too.
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Old 11-14-2009, 07:17 AM   #219
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I can't seem to find my tape measure, so I'm going today to buy another one. As I reported earlier, I have an easier time now buttoning once unbuttonable pants, but my scale is stagnant. However, I feel like it's wrong, because (not to be gross) I can weigh before and after a large BM and it doesn't move, when it should register at least a pound lighter.

I'm giving up on the scale, increasing my exercise, and just keeping on keeping on as best I can.
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Old 11-15-2009, 09:59 AM   #220
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Please post some photos!! Very exciting!!
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Old 11-16-2009, 02:50 PM   #221
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Please keep this going, very inspirational!! So glad to hear that this 3rd week can be a stabilizing week. Stabilize away!! I feel better than I did 3 weeks ago, and I am not gonna quit!
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Old 11-17-2009, 07:04 AM   #222
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Well what a difference a day makes.. I am so glad I found all these inspirational posts because I hung in there and noticed a 2 lb loss this morning. I know these posts kept me on the right track. I feel better than I have in a couple of years...I had dropped to 199 a few years ago, and I want that feeling back, so THANKS to everyone..Lizzie
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congrats on shedding that body fat and not shoving high carb foods in your mouth as you waited out the sclaes.
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Old 01-01-2010, 08:23 PM   #224
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I am confused with the Atkins bars that on the front of these boxes they say they may only contain two to three net carbs but then I look on the side pannels to find out there could be seven carbs in them? Is there any one maybe that could tell me how many true carbs are in the atkins products!!!
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Old 01-01-2010, 08:53 PM   #225
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Old 01-03-2010, 02:11 AM   #226
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I feel somewhat discouraged on this diet.. I posted on Yahoo! Answers & quickly learned that wasn't the right thing to do - everyone who replied was pretty much saying to stop the Atkins plan immediately because it's "so bad for you." But this is the first real diet/lifestyle change I have tried to lose weight & I desperately need to lose weight!

This is one thing I hate about these people who say its dangerous, bad etc etc. Just to know most of people who say that never had a weight problem in their lives. Only those who are heavy and struggling for weight loss can appreciate the goodness of Atkins. So don't listen to anyone who has no weight problem and never had any experience with Atkins.

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Old 01-03-2010, 12:37 PM   #227
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This is one thing I hate about these people who say its dangerous, bad etc etc. Just to know most of people who say that never had a weight problem in their lives. Only those who are heavy and struggling for weight loss can appreciate the goodness of Atkins. So don't listen to anyone who has no weight problem and never had any experience with Atkins.
No one diet is right for everyone. This one works for me because I have issues with insulin and for me it beats hunger and makes the weight come off but when I get slack about eatting to many carbs...the weight comes back. This is more a way of life for me than a diet.

DO NOT DEPEND ON INTERNET ALONE FOR WEIGHT LOSS ADVICE, GO TO THE LIBRARY AND CHECK OUT THE BOOKS...TALK TO YOUR DOCTOR....AND USE COMMON SENSE.... Find out from others what they did to lose weight and keep it off..
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Old 01-04-2010, 01:37 PM   #228
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The first time I did induction, I stalled at 15 lbs. The second time I did it, I stopped drinking coffee and tea all together and the weight just fell off at a rapid pace. I suggest stopping with the coffee, even if you have a small cup of black coffee a day. If you are stalling, that might be the trick.
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Old 01-04-2010, 02:09 PM   #229
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from 200 to 140 !? wow !!! do you have pics illustrating your progress !!??
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no no no, 140 is my goal. I was 200, now after 4 months I'm 165. I got down to 156 but went to New Orleans and ate like crazy and then the holidays came and I was eating more....I started induction last week. I was 170 when I started, now I'm 165 and my goal is 140. I'm 5'7 so 140 is an ideal BMI weight for me. I work out for 90 min a day, every day, so it shouldn't take too long as long as I don't encounter any last minute vacations...

starting weight/current weight/goal weight

Thats what it means on people's profile.

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Old 01-08-2010, 02:46 PM   #231
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frustrated

I am on my 12th day and have only lost 3 lbs as of wednesday,
did not get on the scales the last 2 days. I don't drink regular coffee,
don't take any meds, watch my carbs, watch my calories
and don't drink any diet drinks.

I feel like I may be losing some inches. I hope that my "body"
catches up and lbs just suddenly drop off. I started on Dec 28
so will wait now until Jan 28 to weigh and see if any has dropped.
I started exercising yesterday, so will continue that.
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Old 01-11-2010, 09:26 AM   #232
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hi everyone. i know i cannot by any means call this a stall since i am only on day 7.. but i am none the less discouraged with not seeing the scale move!

i had something from taco bell last night because thats what my hubby wanted and i couldnt resist i had the nachos bell grande with no chips and no beans. just to later find out they add oats and stuff to the meat to make more for less :blush:
so that may be my problem.. but here is the big one. the water! i think i only had 3 20oz waters yesterday. so i am going to make it a point to get in those4-5 bottles full from now on. (my mouth is dry all the time right now anyway) and will try to resist the coke zero with meals as best as i can. i always crave it when i eat. i need some inspiration to keep it up.
also since my weight loss goal is small i do understand that i will not see as much lost as other people who have lots of weight to lose. anyone have any helpful advice for me?
also i have a cup of coffee every morning with splenda... is it true that the coffee could be holding me back? i hate to give it up
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Old 01-13-2010, 04:11 AM   #233
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Just Keep Doing It! Sometimes the body needs time to "catch up" with its self IMO. I heard Jillian say that last night on BL and thought to myself.... that seems to make sense...and helps me stay focused on the journay and making this a lifestyle...

Quickly I started on 12/28 at 287 dropped down to 269 this past sunday and then by Tuesday I was up to 275!! Holy Crap! - Could it be muscle? Im exercising 40 minutes m-f on an eleptical (how do you spell that?) and really enjoying it... Could I be gaininng muscle this quickly from the exercise?

SOMETIMES THE BODY JUST NEEDS TIME TO CATCH UP ~ that makes sense.
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LindsayLou (and others who are discouraged) everyone is different but hang in there. DO whatever you have to do to get through your "flu" symptoms and then worry about following the rules better. Baby steps. Don't give up caffiene cold turkey cus along with giving up sugar that would be suicidal.....LOL

Those skinny people who say Atkins is bad for you think you are sitting around eating pounds of bacon and cheeseburgers. And if that is what you have to do to get thru induction then by all means do it. But what they dont understand is that after you start to feel better you can incorporate all kinds of chicken, fish, and veggie meals into your diet and there is nothing wrong with the diet. Everyone is different and every diet works differently. Being fat is unhealthy so how can being on this diet that is going to help you lose weight be any worse or more unhealthy for you? Obviously if you continue to eat pounds of bacon and cheeseburgers you may have to worry about your cholesterol and you heart but if you are only eating those things in moderation after the initial phase of your weightloss you will be fine.

Hang in there and stay off the scale!!!!! Weigh in once a week at most, do not obsess over 0.4 lbs here and there. Pick and day and stick to it. If you are feeling better and clothes are fitting better you are doing great!!!!

The key for me this time (I have failed Atkins several times in the past) is being prepared and cooking a lot more. Trying to do this on lunch meat roll ups alone sucks and will not work. You have to try and learn how to eat better and make things you love on this diet. Read these forums and google recipes etc. I started researching recipes etc in Nov and did not start the diet until 1/04/10 and I am doing so well on it so far.

Hope this helps

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I restarted induction 2 1/2 weeks ago and so far a 4 lb loss. This week I started an exercise routine and my weight seems to have stopped and gone up a pound. My ketones are lower than usual, but still registering in small amounts. In the past 2 days I reduced my carb intake to under 15 grams. I am following the book and not eating anything off the lists, though I have on occasion had 1/2 to 1 ounce of almonds (plain) when i felt dizzy as suggested by Dr. Atkins. I also never eat more than 3 servings of cheese a day and sometimes don't eat any at all. I have been eating slim jims and pork rinds with cinnamon and stevia, counting the carbs of course. These are the only differences from my last successful round of Induction.

I did start Atkins before the holidays and failed to follow and messed on each holiday (Thanksgiving day, Christmas day, etc.). Then I had to be out of town for my daughter's surgery and I was 5 days off the diet, (no refrigeration) though I tried my hardest to keep carbs down when possible. Would all this back and forth mess with metabolism? Should I do the Fat Fast?
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Sorry to just bust on in, its been a while since I have been here! Congrats to everyone on their weight loss and determination!
I have been back on program for 2 weeks and am sticking to it like glue. I am in the darkest shade of ketosis and have been walking 3-5 miles at least 4-4 times per week.
I am not eating nuts, but am having a bit of cheese. Other than that it is just steak and chicken.....chicken and steak!
Very few veggies.....I know, I know, but I just do not like veggies
Here is the problem. The first week, I lost 9 pounds and week two nothing........but its not just that I didn't lose.....I actually gained
I am not pre-period.
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Old 01-19-2010, 10:49 AM   #238
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same here

I lost 8ish lbs in the first two weeks, following things to the letter, and have now stalled. I have ten more pounds to go and while I know it slows down week three, four, and five, there is absolutely no movement at all and it's discouraging.

Is the fat fast the way to go here? What else can I do to ensure at least a pound of loss this week?
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and have now stalled
A stall was defined by Dr. Atkins as four consecutive weeks with no weight loss or loss of inches. Are you REALLY stalled?

Are you still on Induction or did you move to OWL?

If you moved to OWL, how long ago did you move and what foods did you add back?

If you want to post a complete menu, with quantities and net carbs for all foods, we can take a look. It's difficult to troubleshoot without a menu.

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Is the fat fast the way to go here?
Definitely no!

The Fat Fast is for those people who are very metabolically resistant. Since you lost over 44% of the weight you needed to lose in the first two weeks, you're certainly not a Fat Fast candidate.

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What else can I do to ensure at least a pound of loss this week?
Honestly... nothing. Nothing can "ensure" you will lose X lbs in Y weeks.

This is not a race. There can be weeks or even months without wight loss... and often there's nothing you can do about it.
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This week I started an exercise routine and my weight seems to have stopped and gone up a pound.
This is not unusual when you start a new exercise program. It's not that you're not losing fat... but you are probably retaining water.

Also... make sure you take body measurements. Sometimes we lose inches without losing pounds.

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My ketones are lower than usual, but still registering in small amounts.
The color on Ketostix is unimportant. The fact that they change color means that you're in ketosis.

And you could be in ketosis without changing the color of the sticks at all.

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In the past 2 days I reduced my carb intake to under 15 grams.
Not losing weight for one week is not a reason to lower your carb level. In fact, you might be missing important nutrients your metabolism needs by undereating vegetables.

As I wrote in my previous reply, there can be weeks and even months with no weight loss. It happens.

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I have on occasion had 1/2 to 1 ounce of almonds (plain) when i felt dizzy as suggested by Dr. Atkins
Are you still dizzy after 2-1/2 weeks? That's not right!

How many calories are you consuming daily?

Are you eating every few hours? And do your meals have some fat, protein and veggie carbs?

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I have been eating slim jims
Junk.

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pork rinds
There are better sources of protein.

Plus, part of the protein converts to glucose... so consuming excess protein can actually interfere with weight loss.

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These are the only differences from my last successful round of Induction.
You should not compare your weight loss then with your weight loss now.

A "successful round of Induction" does not mean you will be successful on Atkins. And I don't know what "successful" means for you since Dr. Atkins told us that weight loss is not the only way to measure success at the end of our 14-day Induction.

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messed on each holiday (Thanksgiving day, Christmas day, etc.)
Did you have a plan? Did you have Atkins-friendly foods you could eat? Without a plan, you are likely to mess up... which is why planning is essential.

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Then I had to be out of town for my daughter's surgery
I hope your daughter is feeling better!

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Should I do the Fat Fast?
No.

A week without weight loss is not a reason to do the Fat Fast.
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