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Old 03-16-2017, 05:50 AM   #481
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Congrats PAC That is so Wonderland Wonderful!! A good feeling. I'm happy for you. I know you have been struggling for a long time and I'm glad this is working for you. I think you have made a believer out of me - I'm going to try it. I've been reading up on it - its easy to understand if its every other day. So far I haven't gotten my DD low enough tho. Those cals add up so quick. I tried yesterday but was way over 500 when I added up every little thing like the carrot sticks in the blue cheese dressing and couple bites of cheese on top of the ceasar salad I had planned in I can get it tho I know I can. I did the Dr Johnson calculation; was something like over 2,000 on my UP and 565 on DD. I'm pretty active. I cant do it on this trip to Jamaica probably because we switched to a Secrets Resort and the food is supposed to be awesome

You are doing great too Marsha! I will catch up with you guys. I think I'm teetering around my sig weight back and forth right now. This cold snap has slowed my exercise a bit but I've been on the stationary bike in the living room.
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Old 03-16-2017, 06:31 AM   #482
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Kris, I bought the book, and I'm glad I did. If what he says is true, the health benefits of EOD Fasting are tremendous. He says once you have established your UPDD pattern, you can switch days around to fit your schedule, and you can even give up the plan entirely while on a vacation (up to 3 weeks) and not lose the health benefits you have gained. I don't know why I have been so hesitant to try fasting. I have read the JUDDD threads often, but just never thought I could live through the deprivation. Finally I decided to try it. The worst that could happen is I couldn't take it and I ate more. But I've done the DD twice now and I'm fine. DH is even accepting it so far. That is my biggest stumbling block.

I can't wait to eat today. LOL I want scrambled eggs for breakfast, and I have some leftover rotisserie chicken and some leftover cabbage rolls. But I don't want to lose the progress I have made! All along, I'm forming some plans for future 500 cal days. Some do a complete fast, which I might do some day.

I am so excited to find something that works! I sound like I invented this! LOL Now I know how Marsha felt when she started fasting and dropping weight like crazy!!
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Glad it's still working for you PAC! It gives me hope I think the plan will work for me too and I want to get the book. Is it "The Obesity Code"? Do you think the library would have it?

I am still struggling tho, cant make it work yet. Yesterday was supposed to be my DD, started out fine. But then a surprise road-trip with friends that I wasn't expecting to Cosco an hour away. Who knew they had so many free food samples out all day long. Friend had to get a tire fixed so we wondered the store 'grazing'. That still was OK so I thot, not over 500 cals so decided if that's all I ate for the day it would be OK. Well they had problems and tire took longer than planned so when we finally got on our way home they all were hungry and stopped at the favorite Mexican joint complete with 32 oz mugs of beer, free chips, and 99 cent tacos. I tried to kinda watch it, but you know the story, didn't end pretty So I need to do a better job planning and make it work on the Down days. Of course today will be a DD now but I doubt the swap will fix things - 2 pretty high Up days in a row. But I'll keep stabbing at it and maybe things will fall into place. The couple we were with both have had the stomach sleeve weightloss surgery done in Mexico so none of us pigged out (they can't eat much at a sitting) and both have lost very well. Wife is way thinner than I am now and they are very happy with the surgery. Both have also had excess skin removed. Anyway, marching on, trying again.
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Kris, the book I'm following is The Alternate Day Diet by James Johnson. I got the Kindle book from Amazon because I could not find it anywhere else. My Library didn't have it. There is a whole JUDDD section on this forum with lots of information. You don't really need the book to do it. It can also be done twice a week, as 5:2. 2 Down Days and 5 Up Days.

Yesterday was an UP Day and I feel as though I ate too much. That's one problem with this plan. After eating only 500 calories one day, you really feel like you're cheating the next day when eating normally. My calories for an UP day are supposed to be in the 1800 range. It's hard for me to count because I eat home cooked food, not food with a nutrition label, so I have to estimate. Today should be very interesting. DH is probably going to want to go to the casino. How will I stick to 500 calories at the casino buffet? LOL
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Kris, the book I'm following is The Alternate Day Diet by James Johnson. I got the Kindle book from Amazon because I could not find it anywhere else. My Library didn't have it. There is a whole JUDDD section on this forum with lots of information. You don't really need the book to do it. It can also be done twice a week, as 5:2. 2 Down Days and 5 Up Days.

Yesterday was an UP Day and I feel as though I ate too much. That's one problem with this plan. After eating only 500 calories one day, you really feel like you're cheating the next day when eating normally. My calories for an UP day are supposed to be in the 1800 range. It's hard for me to count because I eat home cooked food, not food with a nutrition label, so I have to estimate. Today should be very interesting. DH is probably going to want to go to the casino. How will I stick to 500 calories at the casino buffet? LOL
OK Thanks much. I'll go to my library and look for the Alternate Day Diet & if they do have it I'll have something to read on the trip to Jamaica!!!!!
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"The Obesity Code" is Dr. Fung's book. And then he and Jimmy Moore did "The Complete Guide to Fasting" last October.
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"The Obesity Code" is Dr. Fung's book. And then he and Jimmy Moore did "The Complete Guide to Fasting" last October.
Did you read both books? Which did you like best?

I did OK today, finally did DD correctly I hope. Only had about 300 calories all day and ZERO carbs. Walked 16,000 steps I better have a loss tomorrow

Not feeling very well, my (old) kitty cat is just not acting right. She's breathing like she has azma, not eating much and peed on my bed for the first time in her life ever. I am afraid she is just shutting down. Doesn't seem to be in any pain but I'm afraid she's dying. I wrote down the # to Pet ER here in case I have to take her during the night Can't have her in pain so will have to put her down if she seems to be. It will be very sad, she's about 18 I think, always been a house cat since we got her as a kitten.
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Did you read both books? Which did you like best?

I did OK today, finally did DD correctly I hope. Only had about 300 calories all day and ZERO carbs. Walked 16,000 steps I better have a loss tomorrow

Not feeling very well, my (old) kitty cat is just not acting right. She's breathing like she has azma, not eating much and peed on my bed for the first time in her life ever. I am afraid she is just shutting down. Doesn't seem to be in any pain but I'm afraid she's dying. I wrote down the # to Pet ER here in case I have to take her during the night Can't have her in pain so will have to put her down if she seems to be. It will be very sad, she's about 18 I think, always been a house cat since we got her as a kitten.
No, just TOC. I am sure the second one will help, too, but I'm not sure I "need" it. Did you find any in the library? I need to find my library card (I know I've found Wheat Belly there but that was 2 years ago and that was the last time I was in the library) and see if they have it and check it out before I decide if I want the Kindle.

Sorry to hear about your kitty. I was just thinking about how old our cat is and she is pretty old (got her around the time of the Osbourne's show on MTV, because her name is Ozzie, which was in 2002). Not good timing. Were you going to board her for the trip? We always let our cat at home and just leave an automatic waterer and feeder because cats are easy, but also she goes to hiding because she can pick up on our stress when we're packing up to leave so we wouldn't be able to find her anyway!
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Marsha I could never board my kitty - she's would have a heart attack. She's very scared of everything and everybody except me & DH. She gets really nervous. She's never been outside so a few years ago I just stopped taking her to the vet for shots because it upset her so much. I would have taken her if she got sick or something but she never did, hardly ever even had a hairball and never an accident in the house till today. She did come down the stairs and eat a little bit awhile ago but it doesn't look good and I'm so afraid to leave on this trip. Previous trips we just leave food and water like you do and my DD stops in to check on her every couple of days but I will hate to leave this time if nothing has changed by Monday DD lives half hour away and is pretty busy but hopefully I can trust her to take good care of Midnight. I sure don't want her in any pain

Oh I didn't get to the library yet. It's been 5 years and I'll have to get a new card but its only a couple blocks away so I'll walk up there tomorrow and check. I used to get diet books there some years ago.
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Marsha I could never board my kitty - she's would have a heart attack. She's very scared of everything and everybody except me & DH. She gets really nervous. She's never been outside so a few years ago I just stopped taking her to the vet for shots because it upset her so much. I would have taken her if she got sick or something but she never did, hardly ever even had a hairball and never an accident in the house till today. She did come down the stairs and eat a little bit awhile ago but it doesn't look good and I'm so afraid to leave on this trip. Previous trips we just leave food and water like you do and my DD stops in to check on her every couple of days but I will hate to leave this time if nothing has changed by Monday DD lives half hour away and is pretty busy but hopefully I can trust her to take good care of Midnight. I sure don't want her in any pain

Oh I didn't get to the library yet. It's been 5 years and I'll have to get a new card but its only a couple blocks away so I'll walk up there tomorrow and check. I used to get diet books there some years ago.
Wow, Kris. That's a tough one. Hope she perks up.

Found my card but I'll probably need to get it updated, too. I'm hoping they have new cards for the key ring now. I always have to search out the big card.

ETA: Just checked online. Nope, my library doesn't have it!
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Good Morning and Happy St Pats Day! guess it was yesterday but our parade is today, will be cold standing out there in the windy chilly weather. duh.

I tried to google our library but guess I'm not smart enough to do that Couldn't figure out how to check what books they have. But I'm going there & will get something to take with me

Yesterday was almost a fast for me, very small amount of food/no carbs and only a one pound loss Was expecting a whoosh. Sometimes when I'm stressed I don't show a loss. Kitty still the same, seems OK but not eating much. No more accidents and is walking around. I don't feel right about it tho, don't think she's getting around very well and not coming around by us a much. I so wish we had another week before leaving. Cant stand thinking about her being in pain alone for two days before Jen gets to her to check on her
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I'm so sorry to hear about your kitty, Kris. That is such a hard call when your pet isn't feeling well. We have always had dogs, as I am allergic to cats, and they usually need to be boarded unless you have someone to care for them, which we don't. When do you leave for vacation? Maybe you should get her checked out before you go.

I am down another 1.5 lb, total of 8 lbs. I know this is the whoosh you get when you first start a new plan and weight loss will slow eventually. I am just happy to be back in the 100s and want to get as far away from the 200s before weight loss slows. I have a lot to lose. I don't know how low I want to go. As soon as I start to see loose hanging skin I will stop losing. I don't have the $$$ to have skin removal surgery, and wouldn't want to go through that at my age, anyway. I will be happy to fit into the too tight clothes I have on hand which are mostly 1 size lower than I'm wearing now. My blood sugar and blood pressure are both coming down nicely, so that handles the health part of it.

Kris, it's not likely that you would see a big whoosh since you are already at a low weight. The bigger you are, the faster you lose. Just take it one day at a time. I only get weighed after a DD. I know I would be up after an UD.

Our parade was last Saturday. I don't go to the parade. Pittsburgh is so crowded and congested, bad parking that costs an arm and a leg. Just not worth it.

Marsha, I love having my library online. I get most of my Kindle books from there. I have only bought 2 Kindle books. If I see a book that they have in stock I can put a hold on it and they will have it ready for me when I go to pick it up. I can't remember if I read The Obesity Code. I don't think I did because I don't think my library has it. DR Fung said that all the info in The Obesity Code can be found in his blog, but it's more organized in the book. I read his blog regularly.
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That's the only problem with dogs. They are MUCH needier than most cats! lol
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I am down another 1.5 lb, total of 8 lbs. I know this is the whoosh you get when you first start a new plan and weight loss will slow eventually. I am just happy to be back in the 100s and want to get as far away from the 200s before weight loss slows. I have a lot to lose. I don't know how low I want to go. As soon as I start to see loose hanging skin I will stop losing. I don't have the $$$ to have skin removal surgery, and wouldn't want to go through that at my age, anyway. I will be happy to fit into the too tight clothes I have on hand which are mostly 1 size lower than I'm wearing now. My blood sugar and blood pressure are both coming down nicely, so that handles the health part of it
Woot woot! Yes, it slows but it's still gratifying. Took me 11 days to get back down to 175. Hoping this month for another week where I wooshed like every day. I, too, am worried about how my skin will look and really only want to go down one more size also. At my previous adult low of 125, I would look all kinds of haggard.
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I listen to him on u tube also in various podcast interviews. Most of the info can be picked up there, but sometimes I just CAN'T listen to him. He says "right?", a lot and it's as annoying as someone saying "you know" multiple times in one sentence.

So I finally got my duck eggs today. $8/dozen and an hour's drive, so that was a one-time thing. You know they're fresh and all, but they just taste like regular eggs. But here's what I'm really excited about: Olive oil. All different types of infused EVOO. Yesterday I got black truffle (every expensive and been told it's good on steak), garlic infused, and then just a "regular" Provencal. Today, at a different specialty store, I got basil (not sure what I will use that with), dill (for salmon), lemon (for other fish) and butter infused (for EVERYTHING). I haven't even gotten to all the vinegars yet. It's expensive but so is the EVOO in the stores which is most of the time cut and adulterated but you're still paying the price (and I can choose what size I want anyway so I can get smaller samples before I decide if I want a bigger bottle). I'd rather pay the same or a little more and be sure of what I'm getting plus all the great flavors!
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Marsha, I prefer to read the blog rather than watch him talking. The thing I notice is that he scratches his head a lot, and it seems like just a nervous habit. LOL Poor guy. Here he is trying to help us and we're ripping him apart. LOL

I don't know if I would want to eat duck eggs, especially at $8 a dozen, and then they don't taste any different than regular eggs. I just googled about duck eggs. It says they are bigger than chicken eggs and contain higher fat. I love eggs. I usually eat a lot of eggs, but at $8/dozen? Right now chicken eggs are going for around 50 cents a dozen.

I hope you enjoy them!
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I don't know if I would want to eat duck eggs, especially at $8 a dozen, and then they don't taste any different than regular eggs. I just googled about duck eggs. It says they are bigger than chicken eggs and contain higher fat. I love eggs. I usually eat a lot of eggs, but at $8/dozen? Right now chicken eggs are going for around 50 cents a dozen.

I hope you enjoy them!
Yeah, for 8 bucks you bet I'm gonna enjoy them! lol They were bigger and the shells were a little harder; but other than that, they weren't any different than the yard eggs we already get that are sometimes pretty big, too, and with beautiful yolks ($4 for three dozen). I just wanted to try them and now that I did, I can shut up about it! hee hee

I do read the Intensive Dietary Management blog. Is that what you're talking about? It is easier but I do have to go back and re-read to make it sink in and "double check" myself as I go through and experience this for myself. I felt uber sick today after eating, so I'm going to try to make it 24 hours because I do NOT want to feel like that again. Not sure if a bug or intense bloating (hubby bought some French bread and I had a little. Didn't enjoy so that "cured" me) from the carbs. Really glad I had the bone broth. It helped so much (that, and the Immodium).

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Woosh started! Well, if one pound is a woosh. Anyway, that's 10 pounds in just over a month. I don't think I've ever done that. IF I can do that -- or close -- again, then there really is something to this fasting thing along with the low carb. I will reach goal this year finally and fit into 100% of my closet.
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Hi Ladies!! I've been missing, feel awful. Bawling all day, face is swollen, eyes red. And I have to get up at 4 in the morning to drive 2 hours to the airport for the trip to Jamaica. I'm way behind in getting things done Had to take kitty in and put her down today. Both dd's went with me, we had her for 19 years and it seems like we lost a family member for sure. Lots of crying all around. I didn't think it would be this hard but its tough.

I'm not sure I can get on at all during the trip, maybe if I can use the hotel internet. I'm hoping to check in with you while I'm gone.

So happy you both are doing so well losing!! I've been doing decent eating really low cal every other day but eating too much on my up days. I bounced down to 139 finally but then right back up when I had a pizza and way too much beer at the St Patty's day festivities. I know I over did so my own fault. Guess I was feeling sad and worrying about kitty, and I just kept drinking and drinking. It was awful. Then I felt like crap this morning which made it worse dealing with Midnight. A day I want to forget. So with all the bouncing back and forth I've not lost a thing so not sure this Alternate Day Dieting is going to work for me, I'll have to control calories better on up days. Maybe I will get the hang of it! I'll probably check-in in the morning, but if not have a great week while I'm away and keep losing!!!
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So happy you both are doing so well losing!! I've been doing decent eating really low cal every other day but eating too much on my up days. I bounced down to 139 finally but then right back up when I had a pizza and way too much beer at the St Patty's day festivities. I know I over did so my own fault. Guess I was feeling sad and worrying about kitty, and I just kept drinking and drinking. It was awful. Then I felt like crap this morning which made it worse dealing with Midnight. A day I want to forget. So with all the bouncing back and forth I've not lost a thing so not sure this Alternate Day Dieting is going to work for me, I'll have to control calories better on up days. Maybe I will get the hang of it! I'll probably check-in in the morning, but if not have a great week while I'm away and keep losing!!!
So sorry for kitty, Kris. Our pets seem to choose weird times, but then maybe it's all for a reason. You're sad, of course, but you'd have been worried about being away and this way you got to be with her. This has made me think about ours and my husband and I have been talking. We aren't at the juncture where we have to make a decision but it's not far off.

Just try and enjoy yourself, Kris. You deserve it.
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Old 03-20-2017, 09:45 AM   #499
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Kris, you're gone already, but I'm sorry to hear about your kitty. I'm glad you got to be there to say goodbye. Maybe the trip will take your mind off that for a while. I do hope you have a good time. Jamaica! How wonderful! I've never been there.

I think it's significant that you bounced down to 139, even though you bounced back up. Everyone bounces like that, and each time it's a lower bounce. Maybe JUDDD isn't for you, but maybe you can fit a low calorie/fasting day in here and there and that will work. You don't have to be exact. Just fit it into your life where you can!

Marsha, yes Intensive Dietary Management is what I was speaking of, but I forgot the name. It's interesting. I go back and read it once in a while.

I know how you feel about the duck eggs. Sometimes there are some things that I just have to try!

I am up 2 lbs today, but I think it's fluid. I did go over my 500 calories yesterday but I don't know by how much. We ate at the casino buffet and they did not have the baked fish I was planning on eating, with veggies. I did have 3/4 of my plate filled with veggies, but the only meat that appealed to me was General Tso's chicken, and with the sauce, I know I wasn't under 500 calories. I'm going to do just a small eating window today. I have corned beef in my crock pot. I don't even know if I like it but I want to try it. I know DH won't eat it. He's uber picky!
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Marsha, yes Intensive Dietary Management is what I was speaking of, but I forgot the name. It's interesting. I go back and read it once in a while.

I know how you feel about the duck eggs. Sometimes there are some things that I just have to try!
It's a great blog. Easy to read considering the subject, but need to keep going back to read for refreshers.

You're kinda making me hungry for a casino buffet now (the one with King crab and Dungeness crab!) Two things, though. What they use is not melted butter, it's butter flavored oil. And, no matter which salad bar you go to, you still never know about the dressings. I've never been one to take my dressings with me, but I think I'll start. BB&B has a really cute to go dressing container. But I can't take a stick of butter with me! lol

I was sure I'd woosh another pound today but I didn't. But I'm solidly at 174 so that's good. Got a steak marinating for supper!
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I'm still hanging onto those 2 pesky pounds! I want them gone. I'm so sorry I messed up at the casino. They have crab legs on Friday but we don't eat them. I can, but they're too much work for just a little sliver of crab. LOL DH would't go near them. I don't use much dressing on my salad so I don't worry about dressings.

I guess Kris is waking up in Jamaica this morning! Lucky!
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I'm still hanging onto those 2 pesky pounds! I want them gone. I'm so sorry I messed up at the casino. They have crab legs on Friday but we don't eat them. I can, but they're too much work for just a little sliver of crab. LOL DH would't go near them. I don't use much dressing on my salad so I don't worry about dressings.

I guess Kris is waking up in Jamaica this morning! Lucky!
Ha. Yes, crab legs are a lot of work. But I do enjoy them every once in a while IF I have REAL melted butter.

You didn't mess up. I almost "messed up" today because I was thinking about going to Sonic for half-priced shakes after 8. I didn't. Hubby helped with that. I'm glad I didn't but, I tell you, I am TIRED of being tempted. Will I EVER not be tempted even if I can keep saying no? I am not "missing" stuff but I think about it. Still, I'll try not to think of it as "messing" up. It's just having an enjoyment.

So I'm hoping for another woosh of 3 pounds taking me into the 160s by the end of the month. Then that would give me a full two months to make a dent in the remaining 25 pounds till my own beach vacay that I am planning with a friend in St. Pete Beach, Florida. It's not Jamaica but I'll have fun.
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One of the pesky pounds is gone today. I wanted both of them gone, but that's life.

Marsha, I do believe that if you keep saying no, eventually you will not be tempted. It takes time, but every time you resist, you become stronger, and the temptations lose their allure. I should practice what I preach! LOL 160s, here you come!
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One of the pesky pounds is gone today. I wanted both of them gone, but that's life.

Marsha, I do believe that if you keep saying no, eventually you will not be tempted. It takes time, but every time you resist, you become stronger, and the temptations lose their allure. I should practice what I preach! LOL 160s, here you come!
It is true. As soon as you say yes, it's easier to do it the next time. And intellectually I know that. And I know that my life won't be enriched by having a milkshake so it should be easy to say, no, I don't need that! lol But reminding myself of that keeps me saying no for right now. Those half-priced real ice cream shakes are such a good deal, though! The fasting has really helped with that, I believe, more than just the low carb. It really does take that extra time to break the physical and mental draw to food.

Glad you got rid of a pesky pound. I am staying solidly at 173, which is odd for me. I usually bounce even though I "count" the lower number once I've seen it (only seen 172 once though). I do tend to lose all in one week, though, still and then two + weeks of nothing. I sure hope I'm breaking through my "set points".
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Just finished my first nearly 36-hour fast. Wow. After 24, it really kind of does get easier. I say nearly because I actually broke my fast at about 30-31 hours with some cashews. Didn't do anything for me so I didn't eat anything else again until after 36 hours and I had 3 eggs. Not filled up but completely satisfied. I had never in my life before a couple weeks ago gone a complete 24 hours without food let alone almost 36. It is life changing. It's really only at this point a mental block to go 48 hours. Since I've never done it, my first knee jerk reaction when thinking about it is to say, Nope, I couldn't possibly do THAT.

But here's the thing -- and only time will tell for sure -- this length of time without food seems to be really breaking my bond with it. Someone mentioned a Mississippi Mud Pie which is all the things I love and would normally make my mouth water for it ... but nothing! I didn't even make a "yummy" sound! I almost think I can imagine how people who don't have that draw towards food feel. Now, here's where people in my past would caution me on not becoming "Karen Carpenter"; but I promise my head is on straight and I hope I can just enjoy food (because I do love it, I am not scared of it) but not expect it to fulfill my wildest hopes and dreams!
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I tend to check this thread for updates on GoBahnsen - does anyone know how he is?
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Hi Slow Sure. We haven't heard from Gobahsen lately but I think he reads, just doesn't always post. Maybe he will stop in now that people are asking about him. We miss him, too, and are concerned, and want to know how he's doing.

Marsha, I know what you mean about the time away from food removing it's hold on you. I am experiencing something similar, even though I am not doing any 36 hour fasting. I was one who said I could never do a 500 calorie JUDDD day, and here I am now, doing it.

You're doing great, and I think it will lead to noticeable changes for you!
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I know what you mean about the time away from food removing it's hold on you. I am experiencing something similar, even though I am not doing any 36 hour fasting. I was one who said I could never do a 500 calorie JUDDD day, and here I am now, doing it
You know, it's funny, as a parent talking to a child or an older [wiser] person talking to a youngling, our advice to them would be to persevere, You never know unless you try!, etc. etc. and yet we still tell ourselves the same, Oh, no, I could NEVER do that! Well, like you said, here we are doing it! I don't know anything about JUDDD, but I may be inadvertently doing it. I know my "feed" days aren't a lot of calories. I ate 3 eggs and 2 slices of bacon for "dinner" last night and my satiety was achieved. I am not afraid of eating, I just CAN'T eat. I think my appetite will be a fluid thing, though, as my body adapts. I've not been at this a full 2 months.

Two pounds till I'm in the 160s and that will be an amazing psychological boost. Plus, I haven't measured, but I put on an "active" top this morning (you know, stretchy and fits a little tighter than a blousy blouse) and I swear it was skimming my tummy a bit more freely than it's been.
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Marsha, a quick synopsis of JUDDD is that a DD (down day) is 500 calories or less and an UD (up day) is "normal" eating, but based on a calculation given on the Dr Johnson website. My UD is around 1800 calories. No food is forbidden, but you are encouraged to eat nutritionally sound foods. Some people do 0 calories on DD, so it would be similar to when you do a 36 hour fast. Basically, what you are doing is splitting your calorie count between the two days if you add them together, but having the higher calorie count on UD keeps your metabolism from slowing down.

I did great the first week, but am struggling with DDs now. They are not UD, but they are higher than they should be. I'm not gaining, but not losing more, either. I don't want to get derailed and start gaining again. I have just been snacking when I shouldn't be. I do know better.

I wonder when Kris will be back from vacation? Tomorrow it will be a week but I don't know how long they went for. I would like to hear from GB, but I don't think he will post without Kris here. They are buds. I do hope he's OK.
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Four days to see 169 and I am 1 pound away!
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