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Old 12-05-2017, 10:38 AM   #31
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Excellent news on the statins, Kissa!

I had a couple of swift trips into exhibitions at the RA - the Jasper Johns and the Dali & Duchamp. I enjoyed them enormously as well as learning so much. The tagline for several of the rooms for the Jasper Johns was, Things the Mind Already Knows and it was perfect for the surprise of seeing the familiar presented in such an unfamiliar way.

In the Jasper Johns' exhibition shop there were several very beautiful related books. A striking African man was looking through them and he handled the books with a degree of reverence that I haven't seen in a long time. It put me in mind of one of Joyce Grenfell's monologues/poems, Nicodemus, that is spoken against a clapped rhythm.

The performance of it is on YouTube but it's not available in the UK It's available on Amazon Prime in the UK.

When Grenfell was travelling around in apartheid South Africa, she conversed with her driver about reading and books. His name was Nicodemus and her monologue is his story.

Nicodemus

I cannot leave my country.
I cannot get a pass to go away
Money is something you must have also
And money is something I do not have today.
But I am making a discovery.
Right where I am are books and books.
And books are full of people and places
And wide new ideas and poems on love
And other subjects.
And I am going away, away -
I am going away in books.
All the time I am travelling in my head
All over the world I am going
I am travelling in my head and I am knowing –
Different places, different history, different thinking, different mystery
And people, people talking all the time
I am travelling in my head, making discovery.

Johannesburg is my city.
I drive a big car for a business man.
Waiting is something I must do often
And when I am waiting I am reading when I can.
Since I am making my discovery
More I am reading books and books
And books are full of terrible stories
And wonderful visions growing of man and what he can be.
And I am going away, away -
I am going away in books.
All the time I am travelling in my head
All over the world I am going.
I am travelling in my head and I am knowing –
Different places, different history, different thinking, different mystery
And people, people talking all the time
I am travelling in my head, making discovery –
Making discovery.
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Old 12-05-2017, 10:45 AM   #32
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first week in, tummy troubles. I wonder why?
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Old 12-05-2017, 01:00 PM   #34
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Have had about 700 calories over the day (its 3) I last ate a couple of hours ago. And I feel so full and bloated. I was starving most of yesterday. WTH? I’ll just play it by ear, maybe make tomorrow an UD if I don’t feel better later tonight. Oh yeah, today is supposed to be my UD.
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Old 12-05-2017, 01:07 PM   #35
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Your work life exhausts me Carly, and I am only reading about it!

I have given up taking me Statins and saw my GP for the first time since this evening, I was expect a dressing down and a battle royal. But this happened. (Excuse the copy and past.)

Back from my GPs surgery.

He was brilliant and totally understood my point of view.

Accepted my concerns about taking drugs unnecessarily and possible future drug interaction problems. He agreed that there are currently conflicting points of view out there. Also agreed that the LDL is less of an issue than previously thought, especially as my Triglycerides are so low.

He has arranged for full bloodworks including Thyroid and Diabetes, although he was certain I didn't have those problems. He was a little surprised that I stopped them in July.
He did say that we should check again in a few months and that if 'we' felt I should go back on them he would change to a 'better' one. That's not happening, but still a fair comment.

He has also change the only other drug I am on to what he believes is a better one. My faith in the practice has definitely risen.

I am home and celebrating with a glass of wine.
After all DW went through last year with her statins depleating her CoQ10 and having a bed reaction to Metformin I'm very leary about them and the doctor never put DW back on them and it's been 14 mos, but her numbers are bad!

I'm glad your appointment went so well- enjoy the wine!

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Hello - I am relatively new to JUDDD. I started it (after a quick read of the website) in March of 2016, lost 30 lbs over the course of 3 months and then decided to take a break for a few months. Well, it's been a year and a half and I recently decided to resume JUDDD. BTW I did manage to maintain the 30 lb weight loss! I still have 30 lbs to lose and I'm ready to do it.
I've been low carbing for a long time and I enjoy the low carb lifestyle. My issue is portion control. I have found that DDs are strangely easy for me because of the programmed way I do them--always the same foods, very little variety and very low carb. I recently bought the Johnson book and am enjoying learning the details of his discovery. I am also enjoying reading about all of your experiences here at LCF. So motivating!
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That Pioppi sounds amazing, minus eggs drenched in olive oil

So far no DDs this week. But I did go to the gym and for a mile-long walk home afterwards today. I also worked out on Saturday.

I need to figure my stuff out. It's tough because I just re-started JUDDD after months of not really adhering consistently, and am also starting to go to the gym after YEARS of not doing anything. I don't know if I should do some moderate calorie thing for the time being until I get used to working out again. My main issue is that I want to be able to go the gym any day for the time being, not just on UDs. I don't know! So confused.
When I was going to the gym in 2014 and 2015 I worked out fasted all the time. I had no issues. As you know, I walk 5-8 miles most days- sometimes more, in a fast state.

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Work out on empty Bluebelle... it'll fine.
If it doesn't feel good just eat, but I'd give it a try.

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first week in, tummy troubles. I wonder why?
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Have had about 700 calories over the day (its 3) I last ate a couple of hours ago. And I feel so full and bloated. I was starving most of yesterday. WTH? I’ll just play it by ear, maybe make tomorrow an UD if I don’t feel better later tonight. Oh yeah, today is supposed to be my UD.
Maybe you have a bug... I think a lot is going around.
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Maybe I should start taking those pterodactyl beans y’all tsk about
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first week in, tummy troubles. I wonder why?
Erin- I've experienced some tummy troubles myself this past week (after resuming JUDDD). I do have the sniffles though, so I was attributing the general "not feeling well" feeling to the cold.
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Old 12-05-2017, 01:42 PM   #38
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Slowsure - couldn't find the Grenfell Nicodemus performance on youtube but I enjoyed reading it from your post.

Carly and Kissa - I have been avoiding statins for a few years now. My GP has been suggesting that he may have to prescribe them for me following the last 2 annual physicals. His only basis is a high LDL (204). My triglycerides (58) and HDL (81) are okay. I really must drop this weight -- the last thing I want is to take a statin.
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Old 12-06-2017, 06:50 AM   #39
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SlowSure LOVED that - 'I am going away in books'

Kissa and Carly - I tried the working out on empty to terrible results - felt queasy and weak. Sigh. At this point I think I have to commit to fixed DDs and work out on the other UDs.
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Old 12-06-2017, 07:26 AM   #40
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Ha, ha, yes, Nilla, I sometimes forget what I wrote in my siggy.

Now that I do more fasting I know how true the healing part is. Dr Johnson was there before Jason Fung! And hunger really isn't an emergency is it? We all tend to snack too much.

I was delighted to see I was under 120 again this morning. I do like seeing the teens.
Yes to the bolded! For me staying relatively low carb helps immensely with not snacking. It's really sad Dr. J doesn't get more recognition for being the one to kind of kickstart the fasting thing or at least kickstarting alternate day eating. He kind of disappeared after introducing JUDDD.

I'd kill to be in the teens. That is all.
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Old 12-06-2017, 11:58 AM   #41
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Do what you can Bluebelle, keep up the hydrations though.

Nilla, I know, I still find it hard to believe myself when I see those teen numbers...
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Do what you can Bluebelle, keep up the hydrations though.

Nilla, I know, I still find it hard to believe myself when I see those teen numbers...
That would probably make my year! The lowest I've seen since JUDDDing is 120.0 (so close!)
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The last time I saw the teens, I was wearing a wedding dress . . .
Twenty seven years ago. So much has happened since then--a great career, a couple of babies, ups and downs, mostly ups!
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last time i saw the teens....I was 12. Not in the cards for me. That's not how I was built!
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So tummy issues seem to have been TOM issues. went to kid's field trip today (DD) and said, to heck with this I'm getting a snack and doing DD tomorrow. Got home logged the snacks, came in around 700, (I usually round up) Decided I would go Zumba at gym because we're having a windy cold snap and I didn't think i could talk myself into a run. Holy Cow this instructor was INTENSE! I would have got lighter workout running. So I'm pooped which is good and must have burned off a couple hundred calories, my tracker said 500+ but I know that thing is crazy pants. UD tomorrow. Salvaged DD, anyone ever succeed in that? Going to try to keep rotation until real holiday stuff comes up, not just a random excuse like today. How everyone else doing?
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Last time I was in the teens, I was literally a teen... ...wait ... .

erinisme, even though you went higher on a DD, you still did good since you were still in the higher percentage of WLM. So kudos!!
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My apologies for my absence the last few weeks (more below). I hope all are well. Carly, that looks like a wonderful vacation. Slow, I hope your energy comes back to you soon, along with some healthy sleep. I'm so proud of you all who are doing well with this holiday season. It's can be so tough!

Around Thanksgiving my best friend and most beloved in the world, my dog, got sick. He spent most of the last two weeks ill, with a full week in the animal hospital. They did everything they could, but on Tuesday I had to face facts that my little baby wasn't getting better, and he was not going to survive. He passed away in my arms Tuesday night. To say that my boy was the love of my life is an understatement. He got me through so many life changes. His heart was so pure. He was only 10 (I adopted him when he was 5) so I'd hoped we'd have a few more years together. Accepting that he is gone will be a tough road; right now the grief is overwhelming. I'll have to be wary of turning to food, especially with all the holiday food everywhere.
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Oh no Tara - I am so sorry about Mr. K, how horrible - and so sudden. Believe me, I know what the overwhelming grief over doggies going to doggy heaven is. Sending you all the hugs, please stay close.
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Oh Tara, there are noon this loss words. Only know that I have had the pain so many times and yet, time after time another wonderful animal has come and filled that unifiable space. They give us their all, the kindest thing we can do for them is to let them go with dignity. My heart goes out to you.
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Thank you all so much. Just having the chance to talk about him is enough for now.
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Tara- so sorry to hear about your Furbaby. I, too, know how painful the loss of our beloved furry family members is. We lost one last year right before Thanksgiving and one the year before the day before Thanksgiving.
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Tara, I know this is controversial advice (and not for everyone) but the few times I have had to go through this horrible experience it has really helped to go out and adopt another dog really soon - it's never felt like a replacement effort despite appearances. There's something incredibly therapeutic about channeling the grief and sense of loss after losing a pet into giving love to an animal that needs a home. I just wanted to say that.
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I totes agree with this. I never feel it's replacing a pet...but rather honoring your beloved by channeling your love and affection to another animal who desperately needs a good home.
We are simply stewards to these amazing and honorable souls...
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Tara- I have no words good enough I first read this at work and started crying and had to shut it down immediately. I'm so sorry about Mr. K and I'm bawling again.

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DH is away on a business trip next week and I was wondering if I might implement a hack of some sort with him gone. However, I've decided to stick with my current strategy of improving the vitamin D status and my sleep.

I loathe this uptick in body fat but I also know that the way to deal with it is by loosening my method because my approach can not be to eat less food. I need to grit my teeth and see whether improving the vitamin D status and my sleep will make it easier for me to manage my day to day and then re-examine my body composition and weight. I regard this as sensible rather than giving-in.
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