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Old 10-26-2016, 12:17 PM   #91
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I hear ya Leanne. If we can't have a life, what's the point?

Thanks Jeanie, how you doing today?
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Old 10-26-2016, 10:06 PM   #92
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Before I quit, the last concept I was checking out and investigating was IF and more specifically Fung. The only thing I really practiced was trying to put the most hours between last meal and first meal. I was, and still am putting 12-17 hours between last & first. And that was a natural transition into Intuitive or Hunger Driven Eating. At the time I decided to quit, looking at the Fung threads , I was thinking there was no way I was going to "torture" myself with 24, 36 or more hours fasts "that was just crazy". And there was the OMAD crowd. "why would I want to live that way?" And then yesterday happened.............. [Just a reminder, I'm not and never have been considered a purist, on any plan. ]
Since DH was traveling, my meals were based solely on my choice. I had:
7 am - Coffee with HWC
9:30 am - Cheese Stick (I had a long meeting at 10 and didn't want to get famished)
12:30 pm - Slice of homemade crustless bacon/cheese quiche
6-8pm - Couple glasses of wine
I wasn't actually hungry, and busy doing projects so I didn't eat "dinner". I thought I'd be very hungry in the morning, but I wasn't.
7am -Coffee with HWC wasn't great, so I picked up a Starbuck's Latte Brevē
10:30 am - I felt empty and went to get another slice of quiche, but found a can of Snappy Tom (spicy veggie juice) that sounded much better and had that.
12:30 pm - I was finally hungry enough and had the quiche
Here I was thinking I just did a 24 hour fast (if you don't count the cream, veggie juice or wine and I understand many do).
Now here I am at 9:30 pm and I'm still not really hungry. Could I eat.... sure. But do I need to.....no.

Not trying to make any point, just relaying my what has transpired over the last couple days [in the best possible circumstances, no outside influences ].
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Old 10-27-2016, 03:43 AM   #93
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No outside influences!

My fasting kinda started in the way you describe Terri, not really a plan. Busy, or overfull from overeating prior day or meal factor in as well. I rarely eat in the morning but never have except when I believed that breakfast was the most important meal of the day! I admit though to using fasting to bring my bg down from too many carbs or to mentally reset. It does sound like IE and fasting are very similiar if one doesn't force the fast or like you mentioned before believe that the body is asking for krispy cremes

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Old 10-27-2016, 07:03 AM   #94
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I could have sworn I posted here this morning, but it's not here.

Congrats on the nice loss Terri and the good day of IE. It's easier when you don't have to be concerned about someone else's eating schedule. I am still not doing well in the evening, and it's my fault. Habit that is hard to break. But I'm still working on it.

Leanne, it's interesting how you're watching other people, studying how they eat and the results. Even the fit healthy people who seem to eat like a horse, will also go long periods without out eating, not even thinking about it.

I can overeat chili, too. I discovered that Bob Evans has excellent chili. I can order it there and there's no leftovers to continue eating like there are when I cook it at home. Second helpings can often be my downfall.
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I am joining you Terri. I quit! I am done trying to lose more or "diet" any longer. I am going to concentrate on staying under 130 pounds and upping the weight training exercise!
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Yay, welcome aboard my friend. Have you read or do you want to read Over Fed Head? I really recommend it to get started in this lifestyle.
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Okay having a hard time quitting, lol! I am bloated from overeating and feel lost without a plan
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This will be as hard if not harder than any diet you’ve ever done, because you need to learn completely new rules. My main rules:
1. Am I really hungry (or just board, etc.)
2. Have I had enough (not full, enough)
3. What does my body want (not my head)
If you’re hungry your first bite should taste wonderful. If the last bite wasn’t as great, you’re probably not hungry anymore, stop eating and push your plate away. If you’re still hungry in five minutes have another bite or two and re-evaluate. It’ll take a little time to tap into the signals we’ve been taught to ignore by dieting.
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. I am kidding myself I can not IE, I have to eat low carb to maintain any sort of control of my sweets binge eating. Have to give it more thought.
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The first time I tried this I tried to get away with eating blueberry donuts whenever I was hungry. I wasn’t listening to what my “body” wanted I was listening to what my diet deprived mind wanted. Big surprise, I started to gain and felt crappy. So I switched back to LC for a while, regrouped, read some more and tried again. It’s not as easy as it seems. “Just stop dieting and eat whatever you want”. Like when you say sometimes you feel so much better when you eat some carbs, I’d wager it not eating sugar. Aside from sugar making you feel yucky; it’s highly addictive and therefore turns off your satiety signals.

I rarely eat sweets now, but don’t deny myself if something really yummy presents its self when I’m actually hungry. If I use the mantra “Don’t put anything in my mouth that isn’t wonderful”, there aren’t a lot of typically available sweets that actually qualify.

With the way we have dieted over the last many years, don’t expect to be able to turn the switch in a day. It takes a while and work. This is also not a pass or fail. We will have good days and not as good days. Normal means not being perfect. The thought that if we’re not perfect we’re a failure is just another trap of the “diet” mentality that has failed us. Just keep applying the principals and it’ll start working.
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Great post Terri.
I agree. It has to be something really fabulous to be worth it.....
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I do feel good eating sugar if it is limited to the one binge. I only feel bad if I struggle to get back on track which isn't always the case. Maybe carb nite would work for me? I just don't know and some days I feel like I am doing fine and know not to expect perfection, other days I freak out and am afraid I will lose total control of my eating. Guess I am over thinking all of it! Sorry Terri I guess my post was not the intent of your thread as I seem to be on another plane!
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My friend, the intent of my thread is figuring it out together. And that doesn't mean we can't question or disagree. Nor is what is good for one, good for all. We'll all get there!!
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I agree. It has to be something really fabulous to be worth it.....
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Hi everyone. I love this thread, so happy I found it. While I do count carbs which I have done before, but this time I am very different about it. My attitude, I mean. First I started for my health and weight loss is just a bonus and I couldn't put my finger on the other thing until I read this thread.
TerriMM, you said in an earlier post..if you really wanted it you could eat it, and that made a huge difference. You are so right. That's what I have been doing different this time. I have looked at some food and been like, I can have that if I choose to. Then for whatever reason that food looses its power over me. It is freeing. Sorry to jump in, as I am not doing IE, but this thread all the posts are so good, empowering. You have helped me connect some dots on my own journey, if that makes any sense. I am much healthier on my WOE, maybe I can eat LC with an IE attitude. Again hope it was OK to jump in.
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Grace, I too am still leaning toward low carb because of the effect of carbs on my diabetes, but since my biggest problem is eating when I'm not hungry, I am trying very hard to practice IE. I want it to be come a habit...the norm for me. I am struggling, but since I know that's my problem, I have to keep trying until I conquer it. I CAN choose to eat carbs if I want to, but then my blood sugar goes up and I have to take meds...meds that have a tendency toward weight gain. It really makes no sense to me that a drug for diabetes causes weight gain, when excess weight is a big factor in type 2 diabetes.
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That is frustrating Carol. The meds, causing weight gain. I have been pretty strict on my daily carb count and it seems to help my appetite suppression. I worry about adding more and losing that suppression. I stay under 40 carbs a day.
Maybe if we can keep the attitude, like you said, of we can choose whatever we want it will get easier.
Like you I am choosing better food choices, for my health. If I eat "junk" my stomach hates me. I have IBS and diverticulitis flare ups. My new WOE has relieved a lot of the pain.
Hopefully we can all encourage each other.
If I understand what some of what TerriMM was saying about IE it is really listening/ learning what our body wants to eat. Not what looks good at the moment. Onion rings look good to me a lot, and I could have them, but my stomach would let me know that was not what It wanted.
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Hi everyone. I love this thread, so happy I found it. While I do count carbs which I have done before, but this time I am very different about it. My attitude, I mean. First I started for my health and weight loss is just a bonus and I couldn't put my finger on the other thing until I read this thread.
TerriMM, you said in an earlier post..if you really wanted it you could eat it, and that made a huge difference. You are so right. That's what I have been doing different this time. I have looked at some food and been like, I can have that if I choose to. Then for whatever reason that food looses its power over me. It is freeing. Sorry to jump in, as I am not doing IE, but this thread all the posts are so good, empowering. You have helped me connect some dots on my own journey, if that makes any sense. I am much healthier on my WOE, maybe I can eat LC with an IE attitude. Again hope it was OK to jump in.
You are more than welcome Grace. This is all a big adventure we're all figuring out together!

And I think you hit the most important nail on the head, ITS ABOUT HEALTH!! Otherwise, what's the point?
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Grace, I find that if something looks good at the moment, it's not usually due to hunger, but craving. I want to learn to differentiate between the two.

If something looks good to me, I would like to set it aside and eat it with my next meal, when I'm hungry. In some cases, I may not be craving that item any longer by that time.
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Jeanie, I had a dream about you this morning but I can't remember what it was about! I had it when that happens!
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Hi ladies! I might be joining you here soon. Taking Sunday to figure out my next strategy. I'm sick of plans, I know that much.. but there's fear I will go off the rails if I don't have a 'plan,' ya know what I mean?? I don't even know where to begin. Is Overfed Head a good book?
Yes I can go off the rails with the best laid plans

I don't see that with you though, you are very strong willed and disciplined! Even when you have veered a little you track what you eat and know what you did which is still controlled
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