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Old 01-23-2017, 09:07 AM   #31
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Thanks kissa

Can't believe u still have the lurgy!!! Hope it goes soon

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Old 03-13-2017, 07:18 AM   #32
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How’s everyone doing over here?

I’m muddling along as usual, still hovering between 8˝ and 9 stone, still trying to get down towards 8. At the moment, I seem to get adrenaline rushes & crashes every time I try fasting, so I’m thinking of going back to low-ish carb. I’d start at around 60g per day, because I get the same crashes as on fasting if I go lower.

We’re doing fine in my household, but my father is pretty poorly these days, and my sister in law is waiting to be told if her breast cancer has metastasised or not, so there’s plenty of stress around the edges.
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Old 03-13-2017, 09:00 AM   #33
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Sorry to hear about your SIL ailuros will keep everything crossed for her. Shame about your dad it's very hard when our parents get older

Gosh 60g seems high to me lol. it's funny how we all can cope with different levels etc isn't it, Much more than 20 and I gain


I am in Morocco at the moment enjoying some fab sun and no doubt gaining weight but will remedy that when I return home later this week

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Old 03-13-2017, 09:07 AM   #34
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Hope you’re having a lovely time in Morocco, Shy! Warmth and sunshine sounds wonderful just now!

I think the problem I have when I increase carbs isn’t just the extra carbs, but the fact that I’m only interested in carbs with lots of fat. Bread with butter or cheese, fruit & cream etc. And it’s fat that I wouldn’t have if I didn’t have the extra carbs, so they increase my calories hugely. That’s something I have to watch if I go over 100g or so of carbs. 60g sounds like a lot when you’re used to Atkins, but it doesn’t go far if you’re thinking of bread or pasta.
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Old 03-13-2017, 03:55 PM   #35
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I am back from a great month in Laos and Vietnam. Didn't gain while away, still around 117 to 120 which was beyond my wildest dreams for years and years!

Sorry about your father and sister Ailuros.

Enjoy Morocco Shy.
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Old 03-14-2017, 08:44 AM   #36
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Glad you had a wonderful trip, Kissa, and that your weight is being so cooperative.

I’ve just been reading “Always Hungry?” by David Ludwig. It advocates a diet that’s basically low carb plus some slow release carbs (no grains initially, but some whole grains later on). It sounds like just my sort of thing. In fact, it’s pretty much what I was intending to do, but reading the book has helped give my ideas a bit more structure.
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Old 03-16-2017, 02:45 PM   #37
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That sounds wonderful Ailuros.

I have been overeating the past few days. still under 120 though and you all know that that seemed impossible a year ago. I am usually well under 60 carbs, but today I ate a Costa ham and cheese sandwich, then crisps!!!
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Old 03-16-2017, 03:13 PM   #38
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I’ve been thinking I'm way heavier than you at the moment, Kissa, but I’m about 122. Higher than I want to be, but I shouldn't get it out of proportion. It’s not terrible.
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Old 03-17-2017, 01:47 AM   #39
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ooh you two and your 120's are doing incredibly well so you should both stop worrying!!

i really do have to stick to around 20carbs a day as i gain otherwise, i guess i am highly sensitive to them

we got back last night and i dread to think what i have gained but back on the wagon and hopefully it will go soon

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Old 03-17-2017, 02:25 AM   #40
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Good luck getting back on the wagon, Shy.

I couldn’t quite handle 20g. Obviously it’s nice to have more freedom, but it’s not just that. On 20-30g I always had cotton wool legs, even after months and with lots of playing with extra salt, potassium etc. I never tried high carb, low fat, because I like fat!
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Old 03-17-2017, 07:17 AM   #41
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Oddly enough, I'm craving a more generous carbohydrate allowance at present - but I think the glucose metabolism in my slightly bruised brain is the driving mechanism behind that. I'm hoping it passes because I don't need the distraction or the overhead of dealing with it while I'm waiting for the symptoms to pass.

We're about to have water smart meters fitted in my area so if it's another dry Summer/Spring, I'm dreading the cost of watering even our tiny garden/pots.
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Old 03-17-2017, 07:24 AM   #42
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I hope you can recover from the concussion soon, Slow.

The common factor in the dietary practices that I don’t do well with, is some kind of adrenaline response. Fasting, very low carb, excessive carbs… I don’t handle stress well either these days, or adrenaline-like drugs.
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Old 03-17-2017, 08:27 AM   #43
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Know what u mean about the stress thing ailuros, think that's menopause. Cos of the fibro I don't handle any drugs well which can be quite difficult

Slow hope it passes soon, trouble is with more carbs comes more cravings, for me anyway. It's a juggling act all the time isn't it.
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After a week or so on the new regimen, I’m really enjoying it. My weight isn’t down, but it’s not up either, and I’m generally feeling better, and as if I’m getting plenty to eat.

Other news isn’t so good. They’ve confirmed that my sister in law’s cancer has metastasised to her lungs & want to do a bone scan to see if it’s there too. So sad. She has a one year old grandchild, and a new one on the way & she just wants to be able to be around to see them grow.
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Old 03-21-2017, 10:55 AM   #45
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Oh ailuros that is so sad, let's hope she can still be around to see the new baby

Glad your new regimen is working for you. I am back on good old Atkins and no doubt will have headaches galore in next day or so whilst the toxins leave me

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I am so sorry Ailuros. So hard for you all.

Glad you are happy with your regime. You Too Shy, I know Atkins always works for you.


I am still maintaining at or around 120. No complaints.
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Hope everyone is well and things are improving for those with troubles

had my first weigh in monday and only 4lbs above what i was before the holiday so am pleased with that

went into Marks yesterday and tried on a pair of size 12 jeans and they fit!!! probably a fluke but to say i am over the moon is an understatement lol

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Congratulations, Shy! That’s fantastic.

I’m still doing the moderate/slow carb thing & feeling better on it. My weight hasn’t gone down, but it’s not going up either. For the first couple of weeks I seemed to be eating as if I’d been starved forever, but that’s settled now, so maybe I’ll actually manage to drift downwards a bit — enough that I can fit into most of my clothes would be useful.
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That's wonderful shy, well done.

My weight is stable at around 8.5 stone. Still surprises me. Having a hungry day today. Out to dinner this evening though so trying to put off eating til then.

It'll come off Ailuros. Slow and steady.
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That's great kissa, well done. Don't know how u do it with your social life but it works so well for u

Ailuros I think when u change plans u do have starvation feelings, as u say that's settled now so hopefully the weight will settle with it

Now this will make u laugh I had a trainer session at the gym and apparently my BMI is 30 and I am therefore obese!!! Good job I don't take heed if BMI isn't it

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Just to agree with Kissa - it's good to have found something that work for you, Ailuros.

shykins - until the BMI categories were revised a while ago, at 30, you'd be just about into the Overweight range. BMI is a decent population tool (cheap to calculate) but has limited applicability to some individuals.

DH and I have been down with one of those, "There's a lot of it about" bugs and it's been pretty debilitating (tho' it could have been a lot worse). However, it's also been interesting because my hand arthritis worsened considerably with the systemic inflammation (I could scarcely move the fingers at all and the bones in my hands were very troublesome). This suggests that my food schedule and WOE is even more effective at controlling the arthritis than I'd suspected.

Looking forward to some fresh air and sunshine.
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Sorry about the bug Slow, and the poor hands.

Shy, we 'live and learn'.... you know your body best.
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Kissa u are right but readings like that could really upset some people. Ack to BMI shows what a useless tool it is, I accept I ain't sylph like but I ain't obese either. Apparently my body fat is 45% too, I said not surprised with these boobs lol. I do question tho how a scale can tell all this... oh well

Sorry to hear about the bug slow, my friend has it as well and feels lousy and had joint pains too. Hope it shifts soon and u feel better

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Sorry you have such a tough time of it, Slow. My hands get a bit sore these days, but not like yours!

Shy, I think BMI can be useful for studying large groups, where individual build variability averages out, but it’s definitely to be taken with a pinch of salt when you’re dealing with individuals.

We went out for lunch today, and I stopped eating half way through my main course, because I’d had enough. Nice to feel that my eating is evening out, and that I broadly know when to stop. It’s interesting that even though I’m eating fairly carby things like beans pretty regularly, I can feel how disruptive it is if I eat the white ones. Moderate quantities of the slow releasing kind do seem to help me feel more grounded than I ever do on very low carb, and to avoid the ultra-fragile state I get into when I fast. I’m feeling optimistic. With all the family health stuff, I’ll need all the strength & stability I can get over the next year or two.
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ailuros its a good feeling for you to be in control of the food rather than the other way round.. well done!!! to the family stuff
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Sounds like me Ailuros. Loving the moderate carb approach. Also, so sorry about the family health issues. Hard times.
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It’s just life, but sometimes you get a few of the hard bits clustered together. My father has a chest infection, which isn’t hugely serious in itself, but is often what people with PSP die from in the end, because they can’t swallow properly so food & drink end up in their lungs. He can barely speak or move now, though there’s just about enough movement left on his right side for him to feed himself. And my sister in law is having a load of different scans to determine exactly where the breast cancer has spread to, but they seem fairly sure it’s in her lungs and sternum.

We live three hours away, so aren’t caught up in the day to day stuff. It’s harder for my mother and brother — and, of course, for the ones who are ill.
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ailuros so sorry to hear about your dad, i do hope he gets over it quickly before any more damage. fingers crossed for your SIL's scans that they arent too bad. such a worry for you and so hard not to just say stuff the diet. been there done that so well done to you for stickin with it

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I re did my BMI from what my scales say and now I am just overweight instead of obese lol

Oh and lost another pound,so 3 more til fighting weight
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LOL Stand on tip toes and you can drop the number a bit more!

After three weeks on this regimen I haven’t really seen any change in weight, but my waist measurement is down an inch, so it looks as if I’m making some progress.
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